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Members Present:
Bob Grow - Chair
Steve Mills - Past Chair, SCC Coordinator
Judy Gorman - Secretary
Victor Berman
Andy Drozd
Mark Epstein
Alex Gelman
Jim Hughes
Rich Hulett
Young Kyun Kim
John Kulick
David Law
Glenn Parsons
Chuck Powers
Narayanan Ramachandran
Jon Rosdahl
Malcolm Thaden
Howard Wolfman
Don Wright
Satish Aggarwal, NRC Rep
Members Absent:
Dick DeBlasio
Bill Goldbach
Arnie Greenspan
Ken Hanus
Michael Janezic - NIST Rep
Joe Koepfinger - Member Emeritus
Ron Petersen
Tom Prevost - Vice Chair
Anne-Marie Sahazizian
Guests Present:
Karen Bartleson
Steven Carlson
Clint Chaplin
Wael Diab
Dan Giusto
Dae Young Kim
Hung Ling
Gary Robinson
Geoff Thompson
Claire Topp - Legal counsel
Staff Present:
Kim Breitfelder
Rona Gertz
Judy Gorman
Karen Kenney
Soo Kim
Bob LaBelle
Mary Lynne Nielsen
Moira Patterson
Dave Ringle
Susan Tatiner
Jerry Walker
Lisa Yacone
1 Call to Order
Chair Bob Grow called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m. Following his opening
remarks, introductions were made by those present.
2 Changes to the Agenda
2.1 Approval of Agenda
There was a motion by Malcolm Thaden and a second by Rich Hulett to approve
the agenda. Upon vote, the agenda was unanimously approved.
2.2 Consent Agenda
2.2.1 RevCom Recommendations
2.2.2 AudCom Recommendations
2.2.4 It was noted that Jon Tucker is the newly appointed Sponsor Chair of the Nanotechnology Council.
2.2.5 Approval of Category D liaisons with IEC
2.3 Balance of the Agenda
2.3.1 P802.1AX - This discussion was held in Executive Session.
2.3.2 P802.3
Chair David Law, on behalf of RevCom, requested that the above two drafts be removed from the RevCom consent agenda.
There was a motion by David Law, on behalf of RevCom, to conditionally approve
the 802.1AX standard based on approval of 802.3.
At this point, the group went into Executive Session at 8:45 a.m.
Motion: Conditionally approve this project [P802.1AX] based on the approval
of P802.3.
The motion is approved.
Motion: Conditionally approve this project [P802.3] based on the approval
of P802.1AX.
The motion is approved.
3 Legal Update
Claire Topp, legal counsel, gave an update on the Rambus issue stating that
the FTC ruling was overturned. Claire also reported that while the ruling on
NDATA was largely consistent with our comments, they were not directed to submit
using the current approved LOA form.
4 Unfinished/Old/Other Business
4.1 There was a motion and a second by John Kulick and Rich Hulett to approve
the minutes of the June SASB meeting. Upon vote, the June minutes were unanimously
approved.
5 Committee Reports
5.1 Standards Review Committee (RevCom)
David Law reported there were 41 submittals for the September meeting.
Chair Law also reported on the progress of the two current RevCom ad hocs which
include:
- Scope of Recirculation ad hoc, which developed a proposal for consideration
by ProCom.
- Sponsor Responsibility with regard to Non MBS Comments ad hoc, which developed
a proposal for consideration by ProCom.
New business items for RevCom included:
- Convention 4 was deleted and a new Convention 4 was added.
Three new ad hocs were formed:
- The Reaffirmation Comment Resolution ad hoc, to clarify whether reaffirmations
require rebuttals.
- The Unchanged Portions and Comments ad hoc to address changes in a vote to
disapprove with comments that is based on material not open to comment.
- The 5.4.3.1 ad hoc was formed to consider how to clarify the text on recirculations.
5.2 New Standards Committee (NesCom)
Acting Chair, Jon Rosdahl, reported there was no quorum at this meeting. The
group reviewed 59 projects.
Two questions on the PAR form were discussed with proposed solutions:
Item 1.4 - Is this project in ballot now?
Item 1.5 - Is the balloting group aware of the PAR modifications?
Because there was a lack of a quorum, acting chair Rosdahl brought the following recommendations to the Standards Board for approval.
Motion 1
Jon Rosdahl and Glenn Parsons
Move to approve the 49 NesCom ad hoc recommendations that passed unanimously
in committee.
17 approve
Motion passes
Motion 2
Jon Rosdahl and Glenn Parsons
Move to approve the NesCom ad hoc recommendations that did not pass with unanimous
support in committee.
This motion was divided into 6 parts as follows:
PARs not receiving unanimous support
Item 1 - P1413 - Recommendation to approve the modified PAR until December 2009
12 approve, 3 disapprove, 2 abstain
Motion passes
Item 2 - P1142 - Recommendation to conditionally approve modified PAR until
December 2009 pending clarifications to 8.1
16 approve and 1 abstain
Motion passes
Item 3 - P485 - Recommendation to approve request for a one year extension
until 2009
17 approve
Motion passes
Item 4 - P62.81.1 Recommendation to approve request for a one year extension
until 2009
17 approve
Motion passes
Item 5 - P62.64 - Recommendation to approve request for a one year extension
until 2009
17 approve
Motion passes
Item 6 - PC37.122.1 - Recommendation to approve PAR for the revision of
a standard until December 2012
17 approve
Motion passes
5.3 Procedures Committee (ProCom)
Chair Rich Hulett reported on the proposed SA Standards Board Operations Manual
changes and then requested a vote on each.
1. Sections 7.1.1., 7.1.2, 7.1.3, 7.1.4, 7.1.5.1
ProCom moves to accept the changes
17 approve
Motion passes
2. Operations Manual changes on Officers of an SCC
ProCom moves to accept the changes
17 approve
Motion passes
3. Operations Manual changes to appeal pool/panels
ProCom moves to accept the changes
17 approve
Motion passes
4. Ops Manual changes on Stabilized Standards
ProCom moves to accept the changes
17 approve
Motion passes
David Law explained the text for the proposed Bylaw and Operation Manual changes on Copyright. These changes will be balloted by email along with the text on the Code of Ethics.
Chair Hulett also reported that ANSI has eliminated trial-use standards. As a result, the IEEE will no longer announce trial use standards through ANSI's Standards Action publication.
5.4 Audit Committee (AudCom)
Chair Glenn Parsons reported on the current status of policy and procedure documents
on the official website.
Power Engineering has 15 Sponsors with the same P&P. The PES Technical Council
is in the process of revising their operating procedures and the 15 PES technical
committees under the Technical Council will each be submitting their own P&P
for approval prior to Sept. 2010. PES requested an extension for the submission
of their revised TCOP document, which was approved by AudCom.
Chair Parsons reviewed the 5 year review process, the AudCom Conventions, and the flowchart.
Chair Parsons reported that draft 15 of the SCC Type 2 Baseline P&P revisions were approved by the Standards Board, but additional comments were received after the ballot closed. AudCom determined that many of the suggestions were useful, so AudCom created a clean draft 17 of the SCC Type 2 baseline P&P revisions.
Mover - Glenn Parsons for the Audit Committee
Motion - Whereas
- SCC Type 2 Baseline P&P D15 was approved via letter ballot of the IEEE-SA
Standards Board, and
- After close of the IEEE-SA Standards Board ballot, comments for improvement
and clarification of the P&P were received that were considered and incorporated
by AudCom, and
- No changes to the intent of D15 were made by these changes,
Therefore, AudCom recommends that the IEEE-SA Standards Board approve D17 as
the baseline SCC Type 2 P&P for 2009.
Result - 17 approve
Motion passes
Baseline Sponsor P&P next steps:
SCC Type 1 - Because no standards work is done, this document will remain separate.
SCC Type 2, individual, and entity Sponsors - The next draft will merge these
3 baselines into one.
Working Group P&P next steps:
Comments received on the Baseline P&P for working groups will be reviewed
by AudCom via teleconference prior to December.
5.4.1 Update on C-EDA/DASC conflicting scope
Alex Gelman reported that John Derringer is negotiating with Victor Berman regarding
the intended scope. The next step is a teleconference to resolve the issues.
A draft proposal to TAB is due by 10 October. Judy Gorman will be included on
the teleconference.
5.5 Patent Committee (PatCom)
Don Wright reported that 16 LOAs have been received and posted.
- PatCom discussed adding an FAQ to the slide set shown during pre-PAR activity.
- PatCom discussed comments made during Sponsor ballot related to requested
LOAs that had not been received. An ad hoc was formed to develop an FAQ, which
will be chaired by John Kulick.
- A discussion was held concerning the receipt of a free-form LOA.
6 Standards Coordinating Committee Reports
6.1 Scheduled Reports due in September:
There was a motion and second by Steve Mills and Malcolm Thaden to accept
the following reports:
SCC14 - Quantities, Units and Letter Symbols (Jim Frysinger)
SCC31 - Automatic Meter Reading and Energy Mgmt (Larry Kotewa)
SCC38 - Voting System Engineering (Gary Robinson)
SCC40 - Earth Observation (Siri Jodha Khalsa)
Upon vote, these SCC reports were unanimously accepted.
6.1.5 SCC10
Steve Mills reported on the current state of SCC10 and offered the following
motion:
Mover and second - Steve Mills and David Law
Move that the IEEE-SASB endorse the following three recommendations of the SCC
Coordinators on SCC10.
- Take steps to disband SCC10
- Change a key IEEE Standards Style Manual rule regarding definitions
- Ask ProCom and AudCom to develop guidelines and best practices
Result - Unanimously approved
Ad hoc of the Board was formed requesting participation from ProCom and AudCom.
Members of the ad hoc include Geoff Thompson, Malcolm Thaden, Howard Wolfman
(chair), Rich Hulett, and Susan Tatiner.
6.2 SCC36 Update
Steve Mills reported that a recommendation to disband this group will be made
by the December meeting.
6.3 SCC18
Steve Mills reported on the status of SCC18 and offered the following motion:
Mover and second - Steve Mills and David Law
Motion - The Standards Board directs SCC18 to complete work on the revision
of its P&Ps, submit them to the SASB Audit Committee, and have an Audit
Committee status of at least 'visibly under development'. If this status is
not achieved in the December 2008 SASB meeting series, the Standards Board will
consider suspending SCC18's External Representative privileges at its December
2008 meeting.
Result - Unanimously approved
AI - Request that Ben Johnson give an update in December regarding External Reps.
7 Calendar Review
7.1 2009 meeting locations
Rona Gertz reviewed the 2009 meeting locations, noting that all meetings would
be held in Piscataway except the June meeting - which will be held in Japan.
8 Informational Reports
8.1 IEEE BOD and IEEE-SA BOG Update
A report was not received.
Initiatives for business development - patent pools, international outreach,
strategic planning.
8.2 Chairman's Report
Bob Grow reported:
- No further appeals have been received.
- Michael Janezic is the new NIST Representative.
- Outreach activities were held this week on Monday and Tuesday.
- Thanks to Mary Lynne Nielsen and Soo Kim and the outreach teams for all their
effort.
8.3 Secretary's Report
Judy Gorman gave an update on the five goals of the SA.
- Organizational business model
- Nurturing strategic technologies
- Process efficiency
- Education
- Global Participation and perception
Judy reported on the MOU signed with KEA this week during one of the outreach visits.
8.4 CAG Update
Steve Mills reported on potential dominance issues in 802 that were discussed
at the August CAG meeting.
9 Ad-hoc Reports
9.1 myProject Update
David Law explained the ticket prioritization system, and stated that the chairs
of the subcommittees (NesCom, RevCom, etc.) are part of this ad hoc. Any requests
should be made through the appropriate subcommittee chairs and will be placed
into the system in some kind of priority order.
10 Liaison Reports
10.1 IEEE-ISTO Update
A report was attached to the agenda and was unanimously received.
10.2 NIST Report
No report was received.
10.3 NRC Report
Satish Aggarwal reported there are continued requests for new nuclear plants
in both the U.S. and around the world. Satish stated that 98% of IEEE nuclear
standards are used in Korea. Korea also has a great interest in cyber security.
Satish invited them to join nuclear power engineering working groups.
11 New Business/Information Items
There was no new business to report.
12 Next Meeting
The next meeting of the IEEE-SA Standards Board will be on 10 December 2008
in Delray Beach, Florida, USA.
13 Adjournment
There being no further business the meeting was adjourned at 3:00 p.m.
The following will be reported out of the minutes as resolutions:
SCC18 motion
Mover and second - Steve Mills and David Law
Motion - The Standards Board directs SCC18 to complete work on the revision
of its P&Ps, submit them to the SASB Audit Committee, and have an Audit
Committee status of at least 'visibly under development'. If this status is
not achieved in the December 2008 SASB meeting series, the Standards Board will
consider suspending SCC18's External Representative privileges at its December
2008 meeting.
Result - Unanimously approved
SCC10 motion
Mover and second - Steve Mills and David Law
Move that the IEEE-SASB endorse the following three recommendations of the SCC
Coordinators on SCC10.
- Take steps to disband SCC10
- Change a key IEEE Standards Style Manual rule regarding definitions
- Ask ProCom and AudCom to develop guidelines and best practices
Result - Unanimously approved
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