IEEE-SA STANDARDS BOARD STANDARDS REVIEW COMMITTEE (RevCom)
UNAPPROVED MEETING MINUTES
10 September 2009
9:00 a.m. – 2:00 p.m.
Piscataway, NJ, US

1          CALL TO ORDER

Chair Law called the meeting to order at 9.00 a.m. There was a round of introductions by all present.

2          REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA

The following modifications to the agenda were proposed:
-Consideration of Item 8.1 to be time specific for 12.00 p.m.
-Consideration of P802.3bc was moved before consideration of P802.3at.
-Consideration of P802.11w was moved before consideration of P802.11n.

There was a motion to approve the agenda as modified. The motion was unanimously approved.

3          APPROVAL OF THE 16 June RevCom MINUTES

There was a motion to approve the 16 June 2009 RevCom Minutes. The motion was approved (yes = 9; no = 0; abstain = 3).

4          ProCom LIAISON REPORT

Jon Rosdahl, ProCom member, delivered the report. [Please see the ProCom meeting minutes for further information.]

5          5-YEAR LIST FOLLOW-UP
                              
There was a motion to accept the recommendations on the 5-year list. The motion was unanimously approved.

6       PROPOSED STANDARDS FOR REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION

[All votes unanimous unless otherwise indicated.]

6.1       New

John Kulick acted as chair during consideration of P802.3at, P802.3av, and P802.3bc, as Chair Law, who is chair of the 802.3 WG, recused himself during consideration of these projects.

P802.3at/D4.2 (C/LM) Standard for Information Technology - Telecommunications and Information Exchange Between Systems – Local and Metropolitan Area Networks - Specific Requirements Part 3: Carrier Sense Multiple Access with Collision Detection (CSMA/CD) Access Method and Physical Layer Specifications Amendment: Data Terminal Equipment (DTE) Power Via the Media Dependent Interface (MDI) Enhancements

Recommendation: Conditionally approve
David Law recused himself from this vote.

There was a motion to recommend approval contingent on the approval of P802.3bc.

P802.3av/D3.4 (C/LM) Standard for Information Technology - Telecommunications and Information Exchange Between Systems - Local and Metropolitan Area Networks - Specific Requirements Part 3: Carrier Sense Multiple Access with Collision Detection (CSMA/CD) Access Method and Physical Layer Specifications Amendment: Physical Layer Specifications and Management Parameters for 10Gb/s Passive Optical Networks

Recommendation: APPROVE
David Law recused himself from this vote.

P802.3bc/D3.1 (C/LM) Standard for Information Technology - Telecommunications and Information Exchange Between Systems - Local and Metropolitan Area Networks - Specific Requirements Part 3: Carrier Sense Multiple Access with Collision Detection (CSMA/CD) Access Method and Physical Layer Specifications - Amendment: Ethernet Organizationally Specific Type, Length, Values (TLVs)

Recommendation: APPROVE
Wael Diab and David Law recused themselves from this vote.

P802.11n/D11.0 (C/LM) Standard for Local and Metropolitan Area Networks - Part 11: Wireless LAN Medium Access Control (MAC) and Physical Layer (PHY) Amendment: Enhancements for Higher Throughput

Chair Law reminded the committee that the scope of RevCom is to ensure that the process has been followed. He also noted that some comments regarding IP issues were received during the balloting process, and suggested that if there are issues that are outside the scope of RevCom that seem to require further consideration, RevCom should notify the SASB of such issues. He also noted that the project had already been removed from the SASB consent agenda.

Recommendation: Conditionally approve
Jon Rosdahl recused himself from this vote.

There was a motion to recommend to approve contingent on the approval of P802.11w and to notify the SASB of IP questions raised by balloters.

Initially, there was a motion ‘to recommend to approve contingent on the approval of P802.11w and subject to the SASB review of IP questions raised by balloters.’ After some discussion, there was a motion to amend the latter part to say ‘ and to notify the SASB of IP questions raised by balloters.’ After further discussion, the question was called and the amendment was unanimously approved.

P802.11w/D11.0 (C/LM) Standard for Local and Metropolitan Area Networks - Part 11: Wireless LAN Medium Access Control (MAC) and Physical Layer (PHY) Amendment: Protected Management Frames

Recommendation: APPROVE

P802.15.3c/D13 (C/LM) Standard for Information Technology - Telecommunications and Information Exchange Between Systems - Local and Metropolitan Area Networks - Specific Requirements - Part 15.3: Wireless Medium Access Control (MAC) and Physical Layer (PHY) Specifications for High Rate Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs): Amendment 2: Millimeter-Wave Based Alternative Physical Layer Extension

Recommendation: APPROVE

P1137-1991/Cor1/D2 (PE/PSC) Guide for the Implementation of Inductive Coordination Mitigation Techniques and Application – Corrigendum 1

Recommendation: APPROVE

P1657/D29 (PE/SB) Recommended Practice for Personnel Qualifications for Installation and Maintenance of Stationary Batteries

Recommendation: Conditionally approve [yes = 10; no = 1 (Sciacca); abstain = 1] 

There was a motion to recommend approval conditional on legal counsel being satisfied with the draft.

Initially, there was a motion to approve. After some discussion, the motion was amended to recommend ‘approval conditional on legal counsel being satisfied with this draft.’ The amendment was unanimously approved.

P1665/D15 (PE/EM) Guide for the Rewind of Synchronous Generators, 50 and 60 Hz, Rated 1 MVA and Above

Recommendation: APPROVE [yes = 11; no = 0; abstain = 1]         

P1671.1/D4 (SCC20) Trial-Use Standard for Automatic Test Markup Language (ATML) for Exchanging Automatic Test Equipment and Test Information via XML: Exchanging Test Descriptions

Recommendation: APPROVE

P1698/D1.4 (VT/RT) Guide for the Calculation of Braking Distances for Rail Transit Vehicles

Recommendation: APPROVE

PC37.06/D11 (PE/SWG) Standard for AC High-Voltage Circuit Breakers Rated on a Symmetrical Current Basis - Preferred Ratings and Related Required Capabilities for Voltages above 1000 Volts

Recommendation: APPROVE

PC37.233/D3.2 (PE/PSR) Guide For Power System Protection Testing

Recommendation: APPROVE

After some discussion, there was a motion to defer this item until the submitter would be available to participate. The motion was unanimously approved.
Once Vahid Madani was available, discussion was continued and a vote was taken.

PC37.234/D9.10 (PE/PSR) Guide for Protective Relay Applications to Power System Buses

Recommendation: APPROVE

PC57.12.38/D6.4 (PE/TR) Standard for Padmounted Type, Self-Cooled, Single Phase Distribution Transformers; High Voltage, 34 500 GrdY/19 920 Volts and Below, Low Voltage, 240/120 Volts; 167 kVA and Smaller

Recommendation: APPROVE [yes = 11; no = 1 (Barber); abstain = 0]       

PC135.62/D9 (PE/T&D) Standard for Zinc-Coated Forged Anchor Shackles

Recommendation: APPROVE [yes = 11; no = 0; abstain = 1]

6.2       Revision

P603/D2 (PE/NPE) Standard Criteria for Safety Systems for Nuclear Power Generating Stations

Recommendation: APPROVE [yes = 10; no = 2 (Chaplin recorded); abstain = 0]

P802.1AB/D6.0 (C/LM) Standard for Local and Metropolitan Area Networks - Station and Media Access Control Connectivity Discovery

Recommendation: APPROVE

P1068/DB2 (IAS/PCI) Standard for the Repair and Rewinding of AC Electric Motors in the Petroleum, Chemical and Process Industries

Recommendation: Disapprove

There was a motion to recommend disapproval; the Sponsor is to reconsider the responses to all comments that were passed on to staff due to RevCom Convention #2 and recirculate as necessary. Sam Sciacca was assigned as mentor.

Prior to the motion to disapprove, there was a motion to approve. That motion failed [yes = 0; no = 9; abstain = 1].

P1138/D14.0 (PE/PSC) Standard for Testing and Performance for Optical Ground Wire (OPGW) for Use on Electric Utility Power Lines

Recommendation: APPROVE

Prior to the motion to approve, there was a motion to disapprove because the WG has not properly recorded changes made from the previous draft to the current draft and the rationale for making those changes. After some discussion, no examples were found, and there was a motion to defer consideration until the end of Item 6.2. There were no objections.
At the end of Item 6.2, this item was discussed further. As no instances of undocumented changes were found, the motion to disapprove failed [yes = 0; no = 10; abstain = 1].

P1534/D4.0 (PE/SUB + PE/T&D) Recommended Practice for Specifying Thyristor-Controlled Series Capacitors

Recommendation: APPROVE

PC57.13.5/D6 (PE/TR) Standard of Performance and Test Requirements for Instrument Transformers of a Nominal System Voltage of 115 kV and Above

Recommendation: APPROVE

PC57.15/D8.6 (PE/TR) Standard Requirements, Terminology, and Test Code for Step-Voltage Regulators

Recommendation: APPROVE

PC62.64 /D15 (PE/SPDLV) Standard Specifications for Surge Protectors Used in Low-Voltage Data, Communications, and Signaling Circuits

Recommendation: APPROVE

6.3       Reaffirmation

There was a motion to approve 344-2004, 951-1996, 1043-1996 (R2003), 1175.3-2004, 1394.1-2004, 1474.1-2004, and 1484.11.2-2003. After some discussion, the question was called, and the motion was unanimously approved.

344-2004 (PE/NPE) IEEE Recommended Practice for Seismic Qualification of Class 1E Equipment for Nuclear Power Generating Stations

Recommendation: APPROVE

522-2004 (PE/EM) IEEE Guide for Testing Turn Insulation on Form-Wound Stator Coils for Alternating-Current Rotating Electric Machines

Recommendation: APPROVE

951-1996 (PE/T&D) IEEE Guide to the Assembly and Erection of Metal Transmission Structures

Recommendation: APPROVE

1043-1996 (R2003) (DEI/SC) IEEE Recommended Practice for Voltage-Endurance Testing of Form-Wound Bars and Coils

Recommendation: APPROVE

1175.3-2004 (C/S2ESC) IEEE Standard for CASE Tool Interconnections - Reference Model for Specifying Software Behavior

Recommendation: APPROVE

1394.1-2004 (C/MSC) IEEE Standard for High Performance Serial Bus Bridges

Recommendation: APPROVE

1474.1-2004 (VT/RT) IEEE Standard for Communications-Based Train Control (CBTC) Performance and Functional Requirements

Recommendation: APPROVE

1484.11.2-2003 (C/LT) IEEE Standard for Learning Technology - ECMAScript Application Programming Interface for Content to Runtime Services Communication

Recommendation: APPROVE

1531-2003 (PE/T&D) IEEE Guide for Application and Specification of Harmonic Filters

Recommendation: APPROVE

C37.114-2004 (PE/PSR) IEEE Guide for Determining Fault Location on AC Transmission and Distribution Lines

Recommendation: APPROVE [yes = 7; no = 3; abstain = 1 (Drozd)]

Before the motion to approve, there was a motion to disapprove. The motion failed [yes = 3; no = 6; abstain = 2]. Then there was a motion to approve, followed by a motion to amend to say: RevCom recommends creating a corrigendum to correct errors in the standard. The motion to amend failed [yes = 5; no = 6; abstain = 0].

7       EARLY CONSIDERATION PROCESS

Chair Law asked to extend the time for the telecon to two hours. The Early Consideration telecon is now scheduled for 27 October, 12.00-2.00 p.m. ET.

8       OLD BUSINESS

8.1       Working Guide Update Ad Hoc – RAC Coordination Information in RevCom Materials – Parsons

Glenn Parsons called in to give the ad hoc report. The ad hoc had addressed all but one aspect in its scope at the previous meeting. The remaining issue was to address how RAC review is accounted for in the submittal process.

RAC coordination is only conducted when requested, either on the PAR form, through editorial review, or by the RAC, and sometimes takes place outside of the balloting system. It is important that RevCom is informed that RAC coordination was required for a submittal, in order to ensure that there is evidence that coordination took place.

The ad hoc proposal contained updates to the RevCom submittal form, to change Item 12C to:

Did the PAR indicate possible registration activity related to this project, did the IEEE Registration Authority Committee request coordination or is the registration of objects and/or numbers included in the proposed standard?  Yes [ ] No [ ]

There was a motion to accept the proposal. The motion passed [yes = 9; no = 0; abstain = 1 (Diab)].

The Working Guide Update Ad Hoc has completed its work.

David Law will discuss with Tony Jeffree, RAC Chair, how RAC coordination will be indicated in instances where the RAC has no comments.

8.2       Balloting Process – ‘Comment Resolution Status’ Instructions – Law

Chair Law reported that, according to his action item from the June RevCom meeting, he requested thatinstructions for resolution status be clarified, and that the comment spreadsheet downloaded from myBallot contain a link to these instructions. His proposal was to change the resolution status terminology from ‘agree, disagree, principle, out of scope, and unresolvable’ to ‘accept, reject, and principle.’

The ‘Comment Resolution Status Ad Hoc’ was formed to further work on this proposal (Chair: David Law; Members: John Barr, Phil Barber, Victor Berman, Ted Burse, Matt Ceglia, Clint Chaplin, Wael Diab, Andy Drozd, Alex Gelman, Mike Kipness, John Kulick Moira Patterson, and Sam Sciacca).

8.3       5.4.3.1 Ad Hoc Update – Comment Resolution – Chaplin

Clint Chaplin reported that the ad hoc’s proposal had been balloted by the SASB. Comment resolution from the ballot will be conducted by the ad hoc, with expanded scope, as an ad hoc under ProCom. All members who had been on the RevCom ad hoc agreed to continue participation. The 5.4.3.1 Ad Hoc under RevCom has completed its work.

9          NEW BUSINESS

Clint Chaplin asked to add an item of new business to the agenda. There was no objection to adding 9.3 - Comments and the balloting system.

9.1       Joint Development Projects – Submittal Information – Haasz

As the first jointly developed project under the ISO/IEEE PSDO Agreement is on the October RevCom agenda, Jodi Haasz provided information on submittal requirements for projects that are jointly developed with ISO, IEC, and ISO/IEC/JTC1. The two main differences in such submittals are:

-Source files are not submitted to IEEE, as publication is done by the other organization. IEEE will receive a copy of the source files upon final publication of the document.
-Jointly developed standards do not have purpose clauses. PARs for such projects should contain a statement, such as ‘this document does not have a purpose clause’ in the purpose field.

9.2       Purpose Requirement for PAR and Draft – Law

Chair Law stated that a purpose clause is not required, which is made explicit in the IEEE Standards Style Manual. It was also pointed out that NesCom recommends that the purpose field contain a statement like ‘document will not contain a purpose statement,’ which is also included in the PAR form instructions.

9.3       Comments and the Balloting System – Chaplin

Clint Chaplin noted that the instructions about what comment resolution information has to be provided in myBallot are vague. Some submittals contain comment resolution responses that point to files or websites outside of the balloting system, and that makes it more difficult to record all the information for auditing purposes.

Chair Law said that this issue should be brought to ProCom.

10        NEXT MEETING
The next RevCom meeting will be Tuesday, 8 December 2009, in Piscataway, NJ, US. The submittal deadline for this meeting is 19 October 2009.

11        ADJOURNMENT

There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 2.40 p.m.